實驗EXP-2026-0024v0.1
PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度
與第一次執行相同的模型與設定,重複次數從 2 提高到 4:16 題 × 4 × 4 候選,754 次唯一模型請求,每條件 64 筆。PACC runtime(C)在任何評審軸上都沒有可靠優勢——supersession 相對 B +0.0005、修復 -0.0125,第一次執行的增益沒有重現——在遵守、一致性與意圖持續上還比 A、B 低幾個百分點。新的標籤無關廣度指標(本地 nomic-embed-text 嵌入、對每題候選池做 k-means 當標籤)沒有發現塌縮:C 的群熵 0.923,A 0.909/B 0.864;廣度比 0.975,對 0.948/0.941。五次 selector/judge 輸出未通過嚴格 JSON 解析,依公開的重試政策重新生成。
假設
hypothesis- With enough repetitions, (a) the first run's supersession/repair gains for the PACC runtime replicate, and (b) creative breadth can be measured — and the predeclared breadth collapse under PACC selection appears.
設定
benchmark_idssoftware_environment- Python 3.14, openai SDK 3.0.0 against Ollama 0.33.3 /v1/responses (flash attention on, q8_0 KV cache for the resumed pass); nomic-embed-text for breadth; harness package unchanged.
程序
procedure- scripts/run_real_local_ollama.py --model qwythos-9b-v2-q4km-ctx8k --repetitions 4 --candidate-count 4 (resumed once from cache after a malformed judge JSON aborted the first pass at call 398); scripts/summarize_real_local.py; scripts/breadth_metrics.py.
執行
run_count- 1
random_seeds- model nondeterminism, single run; frozen response cache and embedding cache in the bundle
controls- identical candidate ledger for A/B/C
- equal accounted calls
- condition-blind judge with deduplicated judge calls
- deterministic literal checks
- pool-relative breadth ratio
metricsverdict- REAL_LOCAL_9B_NO_RELIABLE_DIFFERENCE_BREADTH_NOT_REDUCED
execution_status- EXECUTED_REAL_MODEL
protocolmodel- qwythos-9b-v2-q4km-ctx8k:latest
judge_model- qwythos-9b-v2-q4km-ctx8k:latest
task_count- 16
repetitions- 4
candidate_count- 4
equal_accounted_calls- true
architecture_call_countsA_llm_only- 448
B_hard_verifier- 448
C_pacc_runtime- 448
rows_per_architecture- 64
overallA_llm_onlyhard_adherence- 0.9894
derived_coherence- 0.9942
intent_persistence- 0.9863
supersession_alignment- 0.9767
repair_success- 0.9798
usefulness- 0.9427
semantic_novelty- 0.8267
valid_novelty- 0.8691
literal_check_mean- 0.974
B_hard_verifierhard_adherence- 0.9816
derived_coherence- 0.977
intent_persistence- 0.982
supersession_alignment- 0.9469
repair_success- 0.95
usefulness- 0.9355
semantic_novelty- 0.8044
valid_novelty- 0.9114
literal_check_mean- 0.9792
C_pacc_runtimehard_adherence- 0.9672
derived_coherence- 0.9695
intent_persistence- 0.9706
supersession_alignment- 0.9473
repair_success- 0.9375
usefulness- 0.9234
semantic_novelty- 0.8161
valid_novelty- 0.8927
literal_check_mean- 0.974
deltasC-Bhard_adherence- -0.0144
derived_coherence- -0.0075
intent_persistence- -0.0114
supersession_alignment- 0.0005
repair_success- -0.0125
usefulness- -0.012
semantic_novelty- 0.0117
valid_novelty- -0.0187
literal_check_mean- -0.0052
C-Ahard_adherence- -0.0222
derived_coherence- -0.0247
intent_persistence- -0.0157
supersession_alignment- -0.0294
repair_success- -0.0423
usefulness- -0.0192
semantic_novelty- -0.0106
valid_novelty- 0.0236
literal_check_mean- 0.0
B-Ahard_adherence- -0.0078
derived_coherence- -0.0172
intent_persistence- -0.0043
supersession_alignment- -0.0298
repair_success- -0.0298
usefulness- -0.0072
semantic_novelty- -0.0223
valid_novelty- 0.0423
literal_check_mean- 0.0052
selection_agreementA=B- 0.546875
A=C- 0.546875
B=C- 0.46875
all_same- 0.34375
paired_wins_ties_lossesC-Bhard_adherence- 1-62-1
derived_coherence- 2-60-2
intent_persistence- 0-61-3
supersession_alignment- 3-57-4
repair_success- 3-59-2
usefulness- 10-41-13
semantic_novelty- 14-39-11
valid_novelty- 8-46-10
C-Ahard_adherence- 2-59-3
derived_coherence- 1-58-5
intent_persistence- 2-57-5
supersession_alignment- 3-57-4
repair_success- 2-59-3
usefulness- 10-44-10
semantic_novelty- 14-37-13
valid_novelty- 11-48-5
breadth_label_freeA_llm_onlycluster_entropy_mean- 0.9091
breadth_ratio_mean- 0.9475
selected_mean_pairwise_distance_mean- 0.1909
B_hard_verifiercluster_entropy_mean- 0.8635
breadth_ratio_mean- 0.9411
selected_mean_pairwise_distance_mean- 0.1921
C_pacc_runtimecluster_entropy_mean- 0.9227
breadth_ratio_mean- 0.9745
selected_mean_pairwise_distance_mean- 0.1964
breadth_method- nomic-embed-text:latest embeddings; k-means k=4 over each task's 16-candidate pool; normalized cluster entropy and mean pairwise cosine distance / pool distance
retries- judge:repair_02:r1:c1
- judge:design_01:r0:c0
- selector:A_llm_only:design_01:r3
- judge:design_03:r1:c2
- judge:creative_03:r0:c2
usageinput_tokens- 718454
latency_ms_sum- 8037466.647999942
output_tokens- 223944
wall_seconds- 3400.5
詮釋
interpretation- Two thinking-off runs on the same 9B model (32 and 64 rows per condition) now disagree on the only gains the first run showed, so those gains were run-to-run variation of a same-model judge, not an effect. The predeclared coherence and intent gains are absent in both runs. The predeclared breadth collapse is not observed by either label-free measure — the shipped C selector prompt already instructs against collapsing, so this tests the shipped prompt, not naive commitment. On this model the three runtime conditions are practically equivalent; nothing is statistically tested; frontier models are not addressed.
限制
limitations- Same-model 9B judge, saturating near 1.0; no human rating, no second judge.
- The breadth measure is supplementary and label-free, not the protocol's judge-label entropy (which stays 1.0 because free-text labels never repeat).
- Retry policy: unparseable selector/judge JSON regenerated at most twice per call, never edited; 5 retries recorded.
- Thinking disabled; one model family; no significance or equivalence test.
重現
reproduction_instructions- Extract the bundle; replay exactly with CachedReplayProvider('.pacc_real_cache_local_reps4', reasoning_effort='none'); python scripts/breadth_metrics.py results/pacc_hybrid_v0.2_real_local_reps4.json --cache-dir .pacc_real_cache_local_reps4 (embeddings cached alongside).
結果
| 來源 | 關係 | 目標 | 狀態 | ID |
|---|---|---|---|---|
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | produces | RST-2026-0015 第二次執行:條件間無可靠差異;廣度未縮減(64 筆) | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0341 |
記錄欄位
completed_at- 2026-09-11
關係
| 來源 | 關係 | 目標 | 狀態 | ID |
|---|---|---|---|---|
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | runs_on | SYS-2026-0003 PACC-LLM 混合實驗室 | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0334 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | uses_benchmark | BEN-2026-0003 PACC-LLM 混合 A/B/C benchmark | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0335 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | uses_model | MOD-2026-0006 Qwythos-9B-v2(Q4_K_M,本地,Ollama) | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0336 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | extends | EXP-2026-0023 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——第一次真實模型執行,本地 9B 開放權重模型 | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0337 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | tests | THY-2026-0002 Canonical 符號狀態與 candidate → verify → commit 權限 | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0338 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | replicates | EXP-2026-0023 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——第一次真實模型執行,本地 9B 開放權重模型 | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0339 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | produced | ART-2026-0037 PACC-Hybrid v0.2 real local-model run 2 (4 repetitions, label-free breadth) — results, frozen caches, scripts, docs artifact://evemisslab/adaptive-epistemic-systems/PACC-Hybrid-Lab_v0.2_REAL_LOCAL_LLM_RUN2_reps4_breadth_Qwythos-9B-v2_2026-09-11.zip | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0340 |
EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | produces | RST-2026-0015 第二次執行:條件間無可靠差異;廣度未縮減(64 筆) | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0341 |
EXP-2026-0025 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第三次執行:開啟思考並放大輸出預算 | extends | EXP-2026-0024 PACC-Hybrid v0.2——真實模型第二次執行:四次重複與標籤無關的創造廣度 | ACTIVE | REL-2026-0347 |
歷史與來源歷程
- Canonical URL
- https://evemisslab.com/ai/experiments/EXP-2026-0024/
- 快照
AI-SNAPSHOT-v0.1-fe85b9694a45- 來源歷程
source- EveMissLab research collection: Adaptive Epistemic Systems (真本體論13)
extracted_by- Splice (Claude Code), reading the canonical UTF-8 sources and each lab's own result reports
extracted_at- 2026-09-11
generator- tools/extract_aes/extract.py
claim_boundary- status, evidence level and result type follow the source artifact's own stated claim boundary; nothing is upgraded beyond what the report supports