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ExperimentEXP-2026-0012v0.1

PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?

A rich relation graph keeps far more source/pair/pattern information than the compact v0.4 bundle while leaving task actions identical. It does not rescue the frozen direct affine-sigmoid map to the common-cause coordinate: compact 0 and rich 0 robust passes, real/control ratios ≈ 0.96–1.02, and no system rescued in four secondary seeds. Counterfactual source-flip probes often pass alone, showing partial local directional alignment without a globally discriminative coordinate.

Research status
STABLE the current conclusions are relatively stable
Evidence level
E3 Repeated experiment
Result
NEGATIVE
Data basis
SYNTHETIC Synthetic data and theoretical reasoning. Many now treat synthetic data as if it were real; this laboratory says the opposite deliberately — until a real hybrid model exists, an inference is only an inference, and theoretically possible is not actually possible.
Version
0.1
Updated
2026-09-09
Created
2026-09-09
Domain
Model Representation, Evaluation, Formal AI
Program
PRG-2026-0001 Adaptive Epistemic Systems
Authors
Neo.K (EveMissLab)
AI collaborators
Sol (GPT-5.6, OpenAI ChatGPT)

Hypothesis

hypothesis
The v0.4 failure was information loss in the compact state; a richer non-probabilistic relation state admits the direct low-complexity latent coordinate.

Setup

model_ids
dataset_ids
benchmark_ids
software_environment
Python; deterministic seeded generators; no network, no LLM.

Runs

run_count
2
random_seeds
  • 20260909
  • 4 secondary seeds
controls
  • shuffled-target mapping
  • constant prediction
  • broken composition (v0.6+)
  • target-local refit (v0.7+)
metrics
verdict
RICH_STATE_DOES_NOT_RESCUE_LATENT_DEPENDENCE_COORDINATE
compact_robust_pass
0
rich_robust_pass
0
task_action_invariance
true
moderate_N0
compact_dependence_js
0.0605
rich_dependence_js
0.06146
real_over_control
0.999

Interpretation

interpretation
Richer raw relation state is insufficient for the tested direct low-complexity latent coordinate — not that the coordinate is information-theoretically unrecoverable. Points to a coordinate-composition problem (v0.6).

Limitations

limitations
  • A direct affine-sigmoid observer may be too restrictive even when the raw state is informative.

Reproduction

reproduction_instructions
Extract the version's FINAL bundle; python -m pytest -q; run the version's primary script with the recorded seed; docs/PACC_LAB_v0.N_RESULTS.md and docs/EXPERIMENT_PROTOCOL_v0.N.md are inside the bundle.

Recorded fields

completed_at
2026-09-09

Relations

SourceRelationTargetStatusID
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?runs_onSYS-2026-0002 PACC-Lab — micro-lab harness for the convergence conjectureACTIVEREL-2026-0206
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_benchmarkBEN-2026-0001 PACC micro-lab protocol v0.1 (frozen gates)ACTIVEREL-2026-0207
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_datasetDAT-2026-0001 PACC synthetic evidence worldsACTIVEREL-2026-0208
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_modelMOD-2026-0001 N0 — signed supportACTIVEREL-2026-0209
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_modelMOD-2026-0002 N1 — ordinal tournamentACTIVEREL-2026-0210
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_modelMOD-2026-0003 N2 — signed graphACTIVEREL-2026-0211
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_modelMOD-2026-0004 N3 — constraint competitionACTIVEREL-2026-0212
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?uses_modelMOD-2026-0005 Bayesian reference (exact posterior / Beta-Bernoulli / joint common-cause / HMM)ACTIVEREL-2026-0213
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?testsTHY-2026-0005 PACC conjecture — the four-level convergence ladderACTIVEREL-2026-0214
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?extendsEXP-2026-0011 PACC-Lab v0.4 — correlated sources and dependence geometryACTIVEREL-2026-0215
EXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?producedART-2026-0025 PACC-Lab v0.5 Representation Sufficiency FINAL artifact://evemisslab/adaptive-epistemic-systems/PACC-Lab_v0.5_Representation_Sufficiency_FINAL.zipACTIVEREL-2026-0216
EXP-2026-0013 PACC-Lab v0.6 — hierarchical composed coordinateextendsEXP-2026-0012 PACC-Lab v0.5 — does a richer relation state rescue the latent coordinate?ACTIVEREL-2026-0226

History and provenance

Canonical URL
https://evemisslab.com/ai/experiments/EXP-2026-0012/
Machine-readable
/ai/experiments/EXP-2026-0012/index.json
Snapshot
AI-SNAPSHOT-v0.1-fe85b9694a45
Provenance
source
EveMissLab research collection: Adaptive Epistemic Systems (真本體論13)
extracted_by
Splice (Claude Code), reading the canonical UTF-8 sources and each lab's own result reports
extracted_at
2026-09-11
generator
tools/extract_aes/extract.py
claim_boundary
status, evidence level and result type follow the source artifact's own stated claim boundary; nothing is upgraded beyond what the report supports